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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Another idea Reply with quote

Why don't they legalize baiting as an attempt to get deer numbers down?
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny I was just talking to a guy with the G&P the other day about that.

He told me orginally they didn't want baiting because it concentrated deer and the spread of disease. CWD was the main thought there.

Then a few years back they wanted to kill a bunch of deer and have them tested. They asked a guy that had food plots and feeding stations up, and he said no he wouldn't let them shoot the deer. They figured no problem they'd just hunt neighboring ground. Problem was they had a hard time getting deer because the farm with the feeders had all the deer. That's when they thought what happens when one guy has feeders and only shoots his one buck and leaves everything else go. Hunters on neighboring ground are willing to shoot a bunch of does, but have a hard time finding any because of the feeders.

I have a neighbor that does not allow hunting. If you looked around this winter you'd see 50 to 100 turkeys at a time around here. I have not been able to get a turkey for me or another guy I've had out as of yet. My neighbors wife feeds the turkeys and will go through 100 pounds of feed a week. If you're willing to pick one off the road in front of their house or out of their yard, it would be easy pickings. But other then that, a turkey is now hard to come by. I didn't think I'd see that day around here. But it does confirm what I was told about deer and feeders.
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nehunter88 wrote:
It's funny I was just talking to a guy with the G&P the other day about that.

He told me orginally they didn't want baiting because it concentrated deer and the spread of disease. CWD was the main thought there.

Then a few years back they wanted to kill a bunch of deer and have them tested. They asked a guy that had food plots and feeding stations up, and he said no he wouldn't let them shoot the deer. They figured no problem they'd just hunt neighboring ground. Problem was they had a hard time getting deer because the farm with the feeders had all the deer. That's when they thought what happens when one guy has feeders and only shoots his one buck and leaves everything else go. Hunters on neighboring ground are willing to shoot a bunch of does, but have a hard time finding any because of the feeders.

I have a neighbor that does not allow hunting. If you looked around this winter you'd see 50 to 100 turkeys at a time around here. I have not been able to get a turkey for me or another guy I've had out as of yet. My neighbors wife feeds the turkeys and will go through 100 pounds of feed a week. If you're willing to pick one off the road in front of their house or out of their yard, it would be easy pickings. But other then that, a turkey is now hard to come by. I didn't think I'd see that day around here. But it does confirm what I was told about deer and feeders.


EXACTLY!!!!!! We have been experiencing this for a few years on one property we hunt. We used to see quite a few deer during the season and then the neighbors put up feeders. Since then, the number of deer we see in that spot has reduced drastically and we haven't killed near as many either. The landowners of our spot use my stands during rifle season and they have only killed one deer in that area in the past three seasons since the neighbors put up the feeders. Before that, they used to shoot a couple deer each year.

The sad thing is that their is no need for the feeders. Their is ample feed in the form of corn, beans, and alfalfa in the area. The only reason the neighbors put up the feeders was to keep the neighboring hunters from killing any deer. They have openly admitted this. They think of them as "their" deer and they have pretty much been the only people in the area to kill many deer in the past few years--and they usually only kill nice bucks with very few does taken. Could we start up some feeders and "fight fire with fire"? I suppose, but I don't own the land. I also don't have the time and the resources to be running feeders. I use my spare time to hunt, not bait. Could I plant food plots to help fight this problem? Again, I don't own the land and the pasture usually has cattle in it right up to rifle season, so I don't think the landowner would want to have part of his pasture fenced off from his cattle to protect the food plots.

I know this is not true of all people who run feeders, but in this case it is just a selfish little game they are playing.
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because of cattle running the ground where we hunt, we were in about the same boat. Many of the deer stayed on the neighbors land and made it hard sometimes.

But now we don't have to deal with cattle anymore, so the food plots and feeders are going in. We're going to reverse what happens in your area. We're going to try and make the ground open for hunting more attractive then the non hunting ground.
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